Larry McDonald: S&P 500 Could Crash 30% Over the Next Year
Larry McDonald warns that the S&P could fall 30% over the next year, citing market concentration, pressure on consumers and banks, and the risk of further losses in leading technology stocks. He sees a potential shift from financial assets toward hard-asset companies, while arguing that stablecoin growth could create new demand for Treasury bills. He also outlines possible opportunities in bonds and beaten-down stocks, including a potential Treasury rally during a debt-ceiling standoff.
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Larry McDonald says 60%–120% increases in oil, gas, and diesel prices, alongside a 100-basis-point rise in the 12-month Treasury yield, delivered an estimated $300 billion hit to U.S. consumers and pressured McDonald’s and Home Depot shares. He also warns that higher rates could intensify bank stress as commercial real estate loans reset from 2%–3% to 7%–10%, while predicting that as much as $150 billion could leave Bank of America for higher-yielding accounts.
Larry McDonald argues that sanctions and the confiscation of Russian assets have encouraged central banks to shift from Treasuries to gold, citing a roughly $600 billion–$700 billion decline in China’s Treasury holdings. In the separate context of financing the $40 trillion debt burden, he says financial-repression-like policies could push money toward hard assets, while the guest presents U.S. gold repricing as one possible—not imminent—way to support the Treasury market.
The guest argues that a global stablecoin could reinforce the dollar’s reserve-currency role, while Larry McDonald forecasts stablecoins could reach $1 trillion–$1.5 trillion over five years and direct international investors toward U.S. assets. He says stablecoin issuers would need to hold Treasury bills, potentially creating new buyers for short-term government debt.
Larry McDonald sees a disconnect between the S&P at record highs and roughly 60 prominent brands down 35%–80%, alongside rising concentration: technology makes up 50% of the index, and Nvidia and Apple together account for about 13%. He says passive inflows can reinforce the largest holdings and argues that planned inclusion of SpaceX, Anthropic, and OpenAI could expose passive investors to companies whose combined value he says rose from $360 billion to $5.1 trillion in three years.
GEO-POLITICS
“The hubris in Washington the last 10 years, they've been hitting emerging market countries over the head with sanctions…”—
TECHNOLOGY
“I'm worried about quantum computing because at the dinners, you know, two years ago if you said quantum computing is a threat to Bitcoin, you know, it was like a…”—
ECONOMY
“oil and rates the last 60, 90, 100 days, the move in the in the last like six months or so, the 12 months Treasury is up 100 basis points…”—
“nasty and then a reversal because from here any more that rates go up bond prices come down and you start to create Maggie massive massive stress within the banking…”—
“Why are you in the zero interest rate bank account when you can get 4% over here?" And you know what's going to happen?…”—
MARKETS
“Well, you know, the year-end setup is fascinating because the relationship between the index, so the S&P and what I call the dark side of passive investing, it's getting pretty…”—
“Well, yeah, it's because of AI. Think about this. Essentially the S&P is 50% tech. I mean, come on…”—
“It's it's it's and then you're going to take three IPOs. Think of the idiocy of this, right? And this is how passive investing gets gained, right?…”—
FORECASTS
“Yeah, I make no mistake…”—
“The big warning side is the capital expenditures. This is a testosterone contest in Silicon Valley. They don't have any idea when the payoff is…”—
“So we're not saying we're going back to 50%. But over the next five years, we have to look forward, not back, right?…”—
S&P 500 Crash Warning: Larry McDonald's 30% Prediction
McDonald opens by warning that the S&P 500 could fall 30% over the coming year, while beaten-down individual companies may offer selective opportunities.
The Dark Side of Passive Investing
He describes the gap between record index levels and dozens of established brands down sharply, arguing passive index exposure can conceal serious losses.
AI IPOs, Market Concentration and 401(k) Risks
McDonald warns that technology dominates the S&P and says the prospective listings of SpaceX, Anthropic, and OpenAI could transfer inflated private-market valuations into retirement accounts.
Has the Stock Market Already Crashed?
He argues that many individual stocks have already suffered crash-like declines and that higher fuel costs and borrowing rates have badly strained consumers.
Apple Bonds and the Historic Bond Market Selloff
Using an Apple bond trading far below face value, McDonald says long-duration bonds may offer equity-like returns if yields fall in a recession.
Nike Stock and Opportunities in Beaten-Down Stocks
He calls Nike a deeply discounted global brand and points to unusually heavy trading as evidence of capitulation and possible recovery potential.
Why Larry McDonald Predicts a 30% S&P 500 Crash
McDonald forecasts a 30% S&P decline followed by years of little progress, while emphasizing that selected battered stocks could still be attractive.
Treasury Yields and a Potential Banking Crisis
He sees global bond-market stress as a potential banking risk, citing European lenders, commercial real estate exposure, and the threat of deposit outflows.
Meta's AI Spending and the Real AI Winners
McDonald doubts Meta’s costly AI products will create durable value and favors companies such as Intuitive Surgical, Baxter, and SLB that own valuable data.
Magnificent Seven Warning: The AI Spending Bubble
He warns that escalating AI capital spending could outrun returns, invite political constraints, and eventually pressure the Magnificent Seven and index investors.
Inflation, Bonds and the Case for Hard Assets
McDonald says sustained inflation and higher yields could favor bonds and hard assets over long-duration growth stocks, drawing comparisons with earlier inflationary periods.
Why Trillions Could Rotate Into Energy and Materials
He expects investment to rotate toward energy, materials, and industrial companies that control physical resources, whose share of the market could grow substantially.
NVIDIA Stock Warning and S&P 500 Concentration
McDonald warns that extreme S&P concentration leaves investors exposed to a handful of expensive technology stocks, including Nvidia and Apple.
Why China and Central Banks Are Buying Gold
He links central-bank gold buying to distrust of U.S. sanctions and argues that countries are shifting some reserves from Treasuries into gold.
Stablecoins, U.S. Treasuries and the $40 Trillion Debt Problem
McDonald says stablecoin growth could create major demand for Treasury bills as users and international investors hold dollar-linked tokens backed largely by government debt.
Financial Repression and Yield Curve Control
He describes stablecoins as one possible tool for supporting Treasury demand and financial repression, while arguing policymakers may avoid openly calling it yield-curve control.
Could the U.S. Government Revalue Its Gold Reserves?
McDonald considers whether the government could revalue its gold reserves or use gold as collateral, but stresses that such measures would not erase the debt burden.
TLT, Bond Market Rally and Beaten-Down Stock Opportunities
He sees a possible Treasury rally during a debt-ceiling standoff and says bonds and heavily sold stocks could offer substantial gains over the following months.
Apple Stock vs. Apple Bonds: A Contrarian Trade
McDonald contrasts Apple’s expensive stock with its deeply discounted bonds and outlines a trade pairing the bonds with puts on the equity.
AI Data Centers, Copper and Natural Gas Demand
He says AI infrastructure requires construction equipment, copper, and energy, while arguing that scarce commodity-market exposure and attractive valuations can support hard-asset stocks.
Tether, Bitcoin and the Quantum Computing Threat
McDonald discusses Circle and Tether, Tether’s gold and Treasury holdings, and his concern that quantum computing could eventually threaten Bitcoin’s security.
How to Diversify Beyond the S&P 500
He recommends looking beyond cap-weighted S&P exposure through equal-weight funds or portfolios tilted toward hard-asset companies, given extreme concentration in large technology stocks.
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