PodcastExcess ReturnsTom Maher

You Own the Mag Seven. Small Caps Are Building What AI Needs. Is the Market About to Notice?

The guest sees the AI buildout supporting GDP growth and creating opportunities beyond technology, including in industrial suppliers, construction, and utilities. He points to improving industrial indicators and expected small- and mid-cap earnings growth of 20–30% over the next few years, while noting that financing needs, interest rates, and valuation discipline matter. Concentration in large-cap indexes may create a diversification case for smaller companies, but investors may need to focus on company-specific earnings catalysts and sector differences.

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The guest describes the AI buildout as both a source of GDP growth and an investment opportunity extending beyond technology companies to data-center and fiber construction, equipment suppliers, and utilities. Industrial companies building AI infrastructure or supplying non-IT equipment have also seen some of the strongest upward earnings revisions, including small- and mid-cap companies.

The guest sees gradual industrial improvement in both the ISM, which had been below 50 for an extended period, and trucking indicators showing more heavy-haul loads. He connects the push for resilient supply chains—after shocks from COVID, tariffs, and the Iran war—and the secular unwind of globalization with support for local production and some small- and mid-cap industrial companies, while noting that the pickup remains modest.

The guest says expected earnings growth in small- and mid-cap companies is 20–30% over the next few years, and that smaller companies’ growth has accelerated as the prior advantage of the largest companies has reversed to some extent. He also notes that some companies have added margin improvement to topline growth through greater operating efficiency, though the margin gains vary by company.

The guest argues that concentration in the Mag 7 and the S&P 500, reinforced partly by passive flows, creates a potential diversification case for small- and mid-cap stocks; even a small reallocation from large caps could be significant relative to the smaller-cap market, if investors choose to diversify. At the same time, thematic ETF flows can pressure individual small-cap stocks for 6, 9, or 12 months based on basket membership rather than company fundamentals.

The guest says small-cap companies that depend on external financing—especially unprofitable or highly leveraged businesses and those with floating-rate debt—could face greater stress if rates rise too much, conditions tighten, or investors become less willing to provide capital. He links tighter financing conditions to greater value from active management, including evaluating companies’ ability to fund growth and making active sector-allocation decisions rather than following index weights.

TECHNOLOGY

AI Infrastructure — The guest says digital infrastructure has shifted from fiber-to-the-home and cloud migration to the AI buildout. The opportunity reaches beyond technology companies to data-center and fiber construction, equipment suppliers, and utilities serving data centers or semiconductor factories.

“So I mentioned digital infrastructure and you know just to take that one out a little bit further you know again so it was fiber to the home it was…”—

ECONOMY

AI And GDP — The guest sees the AI buildout as a significant driver of GDP growth, supported by substantial capital spending and potential follow-on businesses.

“I think broadly obviously the AI buildout which we'll get into more detail I'm sure but that's a significant driver of GDP growth a massive amount of capex coming through…”—

Industrial Recovery — The guest points to signs of recovery in mainstream industrial activity. The ISM had been below 50 for an extended period but was starting to perk up, while truckers reported more heavy-haul loads—an indication, in the guest’s view, that the industrial economy was beginning to build.

“But another thing that we've sort of picked up on that's kind of interesting is that in what I would describe as mainstream industrials, we've seen some recovery and you…”—

MARKETS

Reshoring Trends — The guest says manufacturing reshoring appears to be happening and cites a recent improvement in trucking indicators, including more heavy-haul loads. He attributes companies’ push for resilience mainly to supply-chain shocks from COVID, tariffs, and the Iran war—not policy change alone. Gradual industrial growth and a secular unwind of globalization support local production and some small- and mid-cap industrial companies.

“I think, you know, it's interesting through some of the trucking companies we're involved with. I think I might have mentioned this earlier…”—

Small-Cap Earnings — The guest says small- and mid-cap companies are expected to deliver 20–30% earnings growth over the next few years, alongside what he describes as strong expected GDP growth. He says the largest companies’ prior earnings-growth advantage has reversed to some extent as smaller-company growth accelerates. If that continues, he expects greater interest in small caps.

“In a more abstract sense if you look at the expected earnings growth particularly in the small and midcap space it's quite strong you know you have 20 30% kind…”—

AI Market Divergence — The guest describes days when semiconductor gains coincided with software losses, reflecting concerns that AI could hurt software companies. AI-related stocks faced little valuation scrutiny in the second quarter before a rapid reversal in the third. After excess valuation froth comes out, earnings growth may still support some stocks, even if growth acceleration has peaked.

“And now we have some days where they're both going in the same direction…”—

Tom Maher's outlook: earnings, valuations and risk

Tom Maher describes a constructive outlook grounded in strong expected small- and mid-cap earnings growth and AI-related investment, balanced against inflation, rate concerns, valuation swings, and volatile market pricing.

Small-cap earnings and AI infrastructure spending

Maher says earnings momentum comes from technology and AI infrastructure, but also industrial suppliers, construction, and signs of a broader industrial recovery; margin gains add to growth.

Defining small caps and why some companies stay small

Hilton Capital uses the Russell 2500 as a reference while considering market capitalization, profitability, and company-specific behavior; Maher argues that a small-cap premium depends more on business quality and individual catalysts than size alone.

Active management and business quality

Maher favors active stock and sector selection when financing tightens or industries diverge, while acknowledging passive exposure can work during broad reallocation into small caps and other market pivot points.

Small-cap index quality and companies staying private

He sees a greater share of unprofitable firms and delayed IPOs as changing index quality, but says many established mid-caps remain solid and private-market companies may eventually go public.

Combining stock selection with a macro view

Maher combines company research with industry and macro context, shifting research effort toward favorable conditions while organizing holdings around themes, individual ideas, and portfolio diversification.

Higher interest rates and portfolio decisions

Higher rates may pressure leveraged or speculative companies and weigh on valuations, but Maher says quality, self-funding businesses, and stock-specific rate effects shape portfolio decisions.

Passive investing and ETF-driven stock moves

Passive flows and thematic ETFs can concentrate money in large-cap stocks or move smaller holdings as part of baskets; those flows create both persistent distortions and opportunities for company-focused investors.

Finding stocks with improving fundamentals

Maher says small-cap investors may need clearer earnings catalysts and visible incremental progress because undervalued stocks can lack attention, while businesses tied to durable themes may attract recognition sooner.

Valuation, consistency and management quality

Hilton Capital generates ideas through cross-sector themes, historical valuation screens, and market trends, then evaluates earnings consistency and management quality rather than relying mechanically on past valuation ranges.

Reshoring and the industrial recovery

Maher sees gradual industrial improvement and reshoring driven partly by supply-chain resilience, with trucking activity and AI-related construction benefiting suppliers, manufacturers, and related businesses.

Research, profit-taking and investor expectations

Maher recommends taking partial profits to refresh a portfolio and investigating when stocks react contrary to expectations; he also argues that investors should focus on a few market-relevant business drivers rather than excessive detail.

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