PodcastResearch @ CitiAlex Saunders

Markets Edition: Hawkish Central Banks, USDJPY and the Return of Bitcoin

The guest discusses a hawkish 25-basis-point Fed hike and argues that yield-move composition, not simply yield levels, shapes equity-market risk. Speakers also point to crypto-market interest around regulatory developments and describe how moving-average trends and Bitcoin's relationship with Nasdaq returns reflect sentiment. The outlook includes the possibility of a larger Fed hiking cycle if AI-driven strength broadens, while potential Japanese bond reallocation could support the yen and JGBs.

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The guest described a hawkish 25-basis-point Fed hike and a 4.1% median federal funds projection for year-end 2026, unchanged for 2027; Citi Economics, he said, views the move as potentially one and done, though he cautioned that single-hike episodes are rare. He also argued that the composition of the yield move matters more for equity risk than the level, with breakevens and real yields driving it more than swap spreads and the term premium declining.

The guest argued that if an AI boom spreads strength beyond AI-related industries, it could lift wages and strengthen the labor market, creating a risk of a larger Fed hiking cycle and higher rates. Separately, he said Citi Economics sees the recent Fed move as one and done, underscoring the uncertainty around the rate path.

The speakers said crypto interest has been supported by new rules and expected SEC rulemaking, even though the Clarity Act failed to advance and did not get enough votes for cloture. They also described crypto as sentiment-driven, said trend-following works particularly well above key moving averages, and noted that Nasdaq returns have typically been higher when Bitcoin is above its 55-day average.

ECONOMY

Fed Rate Path — The guest says the Fed delivered a hawkish 25-basis-point hike and raised its median federal funds projection to 4.1% for year-end 2026, where it remained for 2027.

“The Fed delivered a hawkish 25 basis point rate hike with chair Kevin Warsh signaling a commitment to policy discipline…”—

MARKETS

Equity Yield Risk — The guest argues that the composition of yield moves matters more for equity-market risk than the yield level. He says the current move is driven more by breakevens and real yields than by swap spreads. The term premium, he adds, has been relatively well behaved and has declined.

“And our studies have shown that that's usually not the case…”—

Crypto Rulemaking — The speaker says Bitcoin rallied despite the Clarity Act failing to advance. He argues that new rules and expected SEC rulemaking for crypto markets have generated interest.

“Bitcoin is one asset that completely ignored the hawkish Fed. What's going on there? Yeah. It's not just the hawkish Fed, Doug…”—

Crypto Trend Signals — The speaker describes crypto markets as reflexive and sentiment-driven. He says trend-following works particularly well when prices are above the 200-day and other moving averages.

“As you know and as we've discussed, crypto markets are among the most reflexive and sentiment driven…”—

FORECASTS

Rate Swap Turn — The guest says Citi Economics sees the Fed's move as one and done, meaning payer positions may have matured and a switch to receivers may be due soon. He cautions that a single-hike episode is historically rare, citing 1997.

“City economics thinks it's one and done, which would mean that payers already mature and we should switch to receivers soon.”—

Larger Hiking Cycle — The guest argues that if an AI boom spreads strength beyond AI-related industries, it could strengthen the labor market, lift wages, and lead to a larger Fed hiking cycle. He says the risk is skewed toward a larger cycle and higher rates, rather than the cycle being cut short by equity-market or AI-boom problems.

“But of course, there's even a more hawkish outcome that's plausible and that is that the AI bubble keeps inflating and eventually leads to much broader strength than just in…”—

Fed Hiking Framework

The hosts introduce the episode and explain how rate-hiking rules of thumb inform positioning, while noting the difficulty of anticipating a cycle’s timing and scale.

Fed Cycle Risks

The discussion weighs a one-and-done Fed hike against further tightening, with broader AI-driven growth and labor-market strength presenting upside risks to rates.

Equity Risk And Yields

Equity jitters around Fed hikes and elections may be short-lived, and yield composition and term-premium changes matter more than any single yield level.

BOJ And Yen Outlook

A dovish BOJ meeting weakened the yen as Fed hawkishness narrowed the policy gap, while potential GPIF reallocations toward domestic bonds could support the yen and JGBs.

GPIF Repatriation Flows

A possible shift by Japan’s large pension fund toward domestic bonds could generate substantial repatriation flows and provide a tailwind for the yen and JGBs.

Bitcoin Sentiment Signals

Bitcoin has rallied despite a failed Senate vote on the Clarity Act, as regulatory rulemaking interest and trend signals point to stronger crypto sentiment and potential Nasdaq relevance.

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