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Inflation Shock: The Worst Is Still To Come | Steve Hanke

Steve Hanke links persistent inflation to money-supply growth above the pace he considers consistent with a 2% target, while falling real wages and affordability concerns weigh on households. He also discusses oil and diesel supply pressures, including logistical bottlenecks, tight inventories, and refining and export constraints. His outlook is that inflation will persist until money growth slows, while diesel prices may remain high and a return to double-digit inflation would raise demand for gold.

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Steve Hanke argues that core inflation remains above target because broad money growth exceeds the roughly 6% annual pace he considers consistent with 2% inflation, and says inflation will persist until money growth slows. He links falling inflation-adjusted wages over the past six or seven months to reduced purchasing power and affordability concerns, while noting that about 70% of respondents are dissatisfied with affordability and the cost of living.

Hanke says rising money supply is consistent with avoiding a near-term recession, while a significant change in money-supply growth may take 12 to 24 months to show up in nominal GDP. He also says interest rates will stay high until money growth slows, and that bank loans—including lending tied to AI investment and data centers—add to the money supply when funds enter checking accounts.

Hanke distinguishes AI-company investment funded with cash, which redirects existing savings, from commercial bank lending, which he says can create money without prior savings. Separately, he says rising stock portfolios support consumption through a wealth effect, estimating that each $100 increase in a portfolio induces about $3 in additional spending and that airline demand is relatively insensitive to the price increases discussed.

Persian Gulf crude exports had recovered from 19% of their February 27 level by April to about 85% by the discussion, while the host cited a Goldman Sachs estimate that September exports reached 19 million barrels a day, nearly 90% of the region’s overall oil-export recovery. Hanke says logistical bottlenecks keep landed physical-oil costs 35–40% above futures prices for most destinations, and argues that backwardation reflects scarce stored oil and a premium for prompt supply—not a forecast of falling prices.

ECONOMY

Money Growth — Steve Hanke argues that inflation is a monetary phenomenon. Core inflation remains above target because broad money growth exceeds the roughly 6% annual pace he considers consistent with a 2% inflation target. He says the overall money-driven price trend matters more than swings in individual CPI components.

“Well, yeah, the core inflation's up above the target and the reason it's up above the target is that to be at the target, you'd have to be running on…”—

Affordability Sentiment — Hanke says about 70% of respondents are dissatisfied when asked whether affordability and the cost of living are a problem. He argues that public sentiment matters more than economists’ indices or messaging from Washington.

“Well, false because you just you run through your scenario that you've just given and then you ask the guy or gal, yeah, is af is affordability and cost of…”—

Gas Price Controls — Hanke argues that gasoline price controls would shift rationing from prices to waiting time, creating lines. He says the time spent waiting could cost some consumers more than the higher pump price.

“That that's that's a shows e economic illiteracy…”—

MARKETS

Diesel Demand — Hanke says diesel prices were up about 70% since the start of the war, citing demand from agricultural harvesting and trucking. He notes that filling a large truck can cost more than $1,000.

“Why? Why? Why do you think the cutting away everything?…”—

New England Heating Oil — Hanke says fuel oil is especially relevant in New England, where households use it for heating and were filling their tanks ahead of winter.

“And one of those is fuel oil…”—

Used-Car Prices — Hanke notes that used-car prices fell 1.5% over the prior year, showing how declines in some CPI components can coexist with increases in others.

“Some some of them don't go up very much. Some of them actually go down…”—

FORECASTS

Diesel Price Outlook — Hanke says Russia’s promised diesel supply to the United States was small and questions whether it could be delivered, noting that about 45% of Russian refining capacity had been knocked out by Ukraine. He agrees with the IEA’s assessment that prices will stay high for quite some time.

“So he took them off and supposedly Putin promised to send some diesel to the United States. Now what was promised is actually peanuts…”—

Gold Demand — Hanke argues that if U.S. inflation returned to double digits, demand for gold would rise as people sought an informal currency substitute.

“we don't have hyperinflation but suppose inflation returns to double digits we can't dollarize the dollar what do we do well the what what you what you do and in…”—

Intro

The conversation opens with market declines and Scott Bessent's claim that energy prices have not spread into core inflation, prompting Hanke to explain why persistent money growth keeps inflation above target.

Why Inflation Persists

Hanke argues that broad money growth remains above the pace consistent with 2% inflation, while energy costs—especially diesel—are already straining farmers, truckers, and household budgets.

The Diesel Crisis

Hanke traces high oil prices to incomplete export recovery, tanker and shipping constraints, low inventories, and the gap between futures quotations and the higher cost of delivered physical crude.

Why Oil Prices Remain High

Despite some recovery in Gulf oil flows, Hanke says logistical bottlenecks and tight storage keep oil expensive, while backwardation reflects immediate supply scarcity rather than a forecast of falling prices.

Global Diesel Shortage

Hanke agrees that diesel supply could stay tight into 2027, questioning whether European stock releases and limited Russian supplies can meaningfully ease the squeeze on transport and agriculture.

Venezuela's Hyperinflation

Hanke describes Venezuela's roughly 250% inflation and recommends replacing the bolivar with the U.S. dollar, drawing on dollarization efforts in Ecuador, Montenegro, and Zimbabwe.

Gold and Currency Protection

Hanke says dollarization can stop hyperinflation, and that when a country cannot adopt another currency, people may protect value by switching into gold or useful commodities.

AI Boom and Interest Rates

Hanke says interest rates will stay elevated while money growth remains strong, and argues that AI data-center borrowing is boosting bank-created money and investment demand.

Recession Risks and the Fed

Hanke sees rising money supply as evidence against an imminent recession, but warns that inflation outpacing wages reduces real purchasing power and keeps affordability concerns high.

Important Disclaimers

Not Investment Advice: For education only — not financial, tax or legal advice.

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