PodcastMy First MillionJeff Harmon

How to find and exploit the "glitch" that can make any business take off

The guest describes how businesses can find openings in emerging distribution channels, niche audiences, and unmet customer needs, using examples from advertising, film, and product development. He also outlines Angel's approach to audience-funded projects, theatrical launches, and Guild membership, while arguing that Hollywood's main challenge is cost rather than revenue. His comments on AI suggest job cuts may be temporary and productivity gains could eventually support more hiring.

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The guest describes a shift from conventional search and distribution toward channels businesses may not yet be built to serve: AI agents could shop through APIs, while a company focused on a new channel could optimize its experience for that audience. He also says social platforms use recognizable faces to recommend related videos, illustrating how distribution can depend on adapting content to platform systems.

The guest argues that a business can succeed with a focused audience rather than a mass market, estimating that 8% of the U.S. population represents about 30 million potential customers; he cites Crunchyroll’s 20 million subscribers as an example of niche scale. He also points to demand for edited versions of Game of Thrones as a possible opening for a legal product serving a specific preference.

The guest frames the Angel Guild as both a recurring funding base and a distribution filter: members pay $12 to $20 a month, have voting and veto power over theatrical releases, and have helped the Guild pay filmmakers $300 million. He says filmmakers receive half the profits, while the Guild uses the other half to build itself, and notes that the membership economics partly rely on members not using all their ticket benefits.

The guest says theatrical releases require substantial, project-by-project capital: launches typically involve $10 million to $50 million, can reach $100 million, and may include $5 million to $20 million in advertising over 90 days. He contrasts those costs with Sound of Freedom’s $250 million worldwide box office on a $14 million production budget and $40 million in marketing, while noting that theaters and distributors take significant shares of box-office revenue.

The guest portrays Angel’s strategy as combining a broad supply of films with selective releases: about 1,000 independent films are made each year, and most do not find a home, while Lionsgate makes about 35% of its movies and acquires the rest. Against that backdrop, he argues that Hollywood’s problem is costs rather than revenue, presenting this as his diagnosis rather than an established industry-wide finding.

TECHNOLOGY

Agentic Shopping — The guest sees agentic shopping as a potential marketing opportunity: businesses that let AI agents buy through an API could reach people who shop through bots rather than search themselves. He describes the opportunity as rapidly growing, not yet an established outcome.

“And if you're a business that has an agentic shopping system where the AI bot doesn't have to go and scrape everything, it just talks to your API…”—

Social Algorithms — The guest says social platforms increasingly use images, including recognizable faces, to associate videos with a person and recommend related content. Kevin James reposted older material to warm up his face in the algorithm before launching the Matt Taylor character on fresh channels.

“So what a lot of people don't realize is what you type into a video is trying to give the algorithm some direction on where your video what mean what…”—

ECONOMY

Angel Revenue — The host estimates Angel Studios' revenue at almost $500 million and says 98% of the audience may never have heard of the studio. These are the host's estimates, not independently established figures in the exchange.

“you're doing almost 500 million in revenue. And I would guess that I'm not alone. I would guess that 98% of our audience has also never heard about this.”—

Niche Audiences — The guest argues a product need not appeal to most people if its interested minority is large enough. He estimates that 8% of the U.S. population represented about 30 million potential customers.

“and I interrupted them and said 8% of people is like 30 million people just in the United States. Why wouldn't you focus on them?”—

OraBrush Ads — The guest says he spent $5,000 to acquire a Facebook page with 1.3 million followers and promoted OraBrush to that audience, but generated no meaningful sales. He says Google ads cost roughly $3 to $5 per dollar of sales.

“The first thing I did is I bought I convinced Dr. Bob to spend $5,000 buying a web a Facebook page called Kisses.”—

MARKETS

YouTube Ad Format — The guest says YouTube's skip-ad concept let viewers skip after five seconds. He argued against a fixed ad-length limit so ads could continue as long as they held viewers' interest.

“And we came up with this idea of a skip ad button where you could after 5 seconds you click skip if you're not interested in the ad…”—

I helped a dentist create one of the greatest marketing campaigns

Jeff Harmon recounts spotting a market for Dr. Bob’s tongue cleaner, then combining direct-response sales instincts, a kissing-themed Facebook audience, and a simple YouTube explainer to sell the product.

How to find the glitch in the system

Harmon says a business can gain a foothold by finding a temporary distribution advantage, such as AuraBrush’s early YouTube ad rates, then using the resulting traffic to improve its marketing.

Go for your own problems

He recommends building around problems founders have experienced themselves, citing Dr. Bob’s tongue-cleaning solution and Airbnb’s founders renting out air mattresses to cover rent.

Where is the attention going?

Harmon argues that opportunity often appears where attention is moving faster than incumbents can follow, including emerging AI shopping channels and new ways to reach customers.

ANGEL

Harmon explains that VidAngel began as a solution to his family’s content-filtering needs and served viewers who wanted to watch popular shows without explicit material.

19-minute ad experiment

Angel tested audience demand by promoting a 19-minute pilot as a skippable YouTube ad, asking viewers who stayed to fund a full series.

The genius moment behind Squatty Potty, Poo-Pourri

Harmon describes how he evaluated Poo-Pourri and Squatty Potty as useful products before developing advertising that could turn their practical benefits into memorable campaigns.

Poo-Pourri ad

The Poo-Pourri concept paired an unexpected subject—bathroom odor—with a polished British spokesperson, using contrast to make the product’s benefit entertaining and clear.

How to craft a $100M ad

Harmon says a strong ad must connect its jokes to the product’s message, and that comedians are often easier to train in marketing structure than marketers are to teach comedy.

Use comedians

Angel’s campaigns combine scripted comedy with large-scale social distribution; for Solo Mio, Kevin James created the Matt Taylor persona to build attention around the movie.

Warm up the algorithm

The team warmed up Kevin James’s face in social algorithms so videos featuring his new character could reach viewers already engaging with his content.

Super Bowl stunts

Harmon describes using a Super Bowl appearance and ambiguous imagery to spark discussion and viral reach for Kevin James’s Solo Mio campaign.

PG-13 content for the masses

Angel aims to make values-based entertainment, including faith-focused releases, while relying on Guild members to review, vote on, and support films.

Base hits vs. home runs

Harmon characterizes Angel as a base-hits business that can occasionally produce a major breakout, with Guild participation helping identify and support films.

The economics of the movie business

He explains theatrical economics through Sound of Freedom: production and marketing costs, theater revenue splits, and Angel’s profit-sharing arrangement with filmmakers.

“I’ve never met a billionaire who doesn’t want to make movies”

Harmon says Angel’s monthly Guild membership and movie-ticket benefits rely partly on members not attending every release, while the company acquires films rather than producing them all.

The brutality of Hollywood

He argues that wealthy people are drawn to filmmaking and that the Angel Guild lets millions of members collectively support projects and share in their success.

Having a personal vibe coder

Harmon calls Hollywood a difficult, knife-fight business, arguing its main issue is escalating costs rather than insufficient audience revenue.

Advice to my younger self

He points to Angel’s hands-on AI prototyping and argues that productivity gains could ultimately create demand for more workers rather than permanent mass unemployment.

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