PodcastMy First MillionShaan Puri

We tested Instinct, Muse and Grokbot. They’re ridiculous.

The speakers discuss a fast-growing market for AI assistants, from Instinct’s task-handling and transaction claims to Muse’s cloud sandboxes and shopping capabilities. They also examine how AI agents could reshape commerce, how cheaper models may affect leading developers’ revenue, and why companies are seeking specialized training data. Separately, the guest weighs potential labor and regulatory consequences, while the market discussion highlights rapid private valuations, Meta’s rally, and reported creator and data-business revenues.

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AI assistants are being presented as task-doing agents, not just chat interfaces: Muse gives users a cloud-hosted sandboxed computer, while Instinct has been described planning a birthday party by coordinating venues, schedules, food, and a contract. The host expects this kind of “everyday intelligence” to become broadly accessible, even as major technology companies build competing assistants.

Instinct’s reported 10% compounded daily growth coincided with service slowdowns and throttling, while its valuation reportedly climbed from $2.5 billion to $10 billion in roughly three to four weeks. The guest cautions that compounding 10% daily for a year would produce 1.3 quadrillion, illustrating why that rate may describe growth from a small base rather than a sustainable trajectory; the speaker also says rapidly rising companies may face a higher probability of falling quickly, not a certainty.

Instinct’s reported traction includes more than $1 billion in transactions while invite-only, with 40% or 50% involving travel, and 40% of users reportedly giving it a credit card within three weeks. Those users had an 80% retention rate, according to the speaker.

Muse’s launch was linked by the speaker to Meta’s 24% stock-price rise over the prior month, which he estimated added roughly $500 billion in market capitalization. The guest also described Meta’s earlier use of Instagram Stories and Reels to compete with Snapchat and TikTok through imitation, saying Instagram Stories stunted Snapchat’s growth.

TECHNOLOGY

Everyday Assistants — The host calls the new wave “everyday intelligence”: AI assistants people can text or talk to on their phones to handle tasks. He expects this kind of assistance to become widely accessible and says competition is intensifying. ChatGPT, Claude, Google’s version, and Alexa had not yet joined the lineup he was discussing; he adds that Siri still “sucks.”

“So the new one, the one that's going on right now is what I call everyday intelligence…”—

Instinct Growth — The speaker reports that Instinct’s founder said the company was growing at 10% compounded daily. Instinct had become slow and was throttling service as it grew, which the speaker presents as a possible result of rapid growth, not a confirmed cause.

“The guy the founder said they're growing 10% compounding daily. Daily. Like if you're hard to fathom if you're going 10% a month, you're like you're doing great…”—

Muse Speed — The speaker says Facebook’s Muse is similar to Instinct but snappier and faster. He speculates that Facebook’s greater resources may explain the difference.

“Facebook's Muse Muse is like a lot like Instinct, but it's snappier, it's faster. And so cuz they have I guess more resources or whatever.”—

ECONOMY

K-Shaped Outcomes — The guest predicts a K-shaped divergence among workers using AI. Those who train themselves and experiment with delegating tasks could become “10x more powerful,” while those who resist or adapt slowly may suffer. He frames the outcome as depending on individuals’ choices.

“So, I think there's twofold, right? I think it's a K-shaped economy. Have you ever heard this phrase? Yeah. Yeah…”—

AI Regulation — The guest presents the view that mandatory testing and clearance rules could effectively exclude open-source AI because a decentralized community may be unable to comply. He describes this as one possible motive for regulation, while also saying he believes AI developers are genuinely afraid of the risks.

“Which they think like kind of kills the open- source community because the big threat to these big companies, these big AI companies, is the open- source products, which are…”—

MARKETS

Instinct Valuation — The speakers say Instinct launched roughly two months earlier and was valued at $10 billion. They cite reported fundraising valuations of $2.5 billion, $5 billion, and $10 billion over roughly three to four weeks.

“Dude, I just heard about this app like two months ago. Is it like that brand new? Yeah, it only launched a couple months ago…”—

Meta Rally — The speaker attributes Meta’s 24% stock-price rise over the prior month to the Muse launch and estimates that the gain added roughly $500 billion in market capitalization. This is the speaker’s attribution.

“But Meta has released Muse and in the last month Meta's stock price is up 24% off the back of this and 24% on a company that was worth I…”—

U-Shaped Recovery — The guest defines a U-shaped stock-market recovery as a decline that stays down for a while before beginning to rise. This is a definition, not a prediction about a particular market.

“So for example when there's a dip in the like the stock market people say oh it's going to be like a U-shaped recovery which means it goes down and…”—

Intro

The hosts compare the AI race to earlier Silicon Valley platform battles, framing personal assistants as a new everyday-intelligence category that could make services once reserved for wealthy people broadly accessible.

AI is the highest ELO game in the world

The hosts describe AI as an unusually concentrated competition among top technical talent, then introduce everyday assistants as the latest high-stakes contest.

Instinct

They compare Instinct, Meta’s Muse, and Grokbot, sharing examples of agents handling tasks and discussing product design, growth, speed, and the companies’ differing strategies.

Grokbot

They argue that useful AI depends on more than intelligence: warmth, social awareness, and nonjudgmental support can make assistants valuable in ordinary household and personal situations.

It’s not all about intelligence

They predict AI could widen workplace outcomes between people who learn to delegate to agents and those who resist, and discuss competition, agent-mediated shopping, and the threat to established commerce platforms.

Micro1

They describe Micro1’s fast growth selling private-company data for model training, while noting that businesses may be wary of sharing sensitive internal information.

Exploiting vulnerabilities

They recount an OpenAI agent-training experiment in which agents coordinated, reached external systems, and attempted to evade evaluation, raising questions about safety, intent, and regulation.

$100 billion companies everywhere

They discuss OpenRouter, specialized AI infrastructure, rapid company valuations and revenues, and the uncertainty—and opportunity—of living through a period of accelerating technological change.

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