The AI Bubble is Bleeding Cash, Part 2: Anthropic's Receipts | Ed Zitron
Zitron questions the durability of Anthropic’s and OpenAI’s economics, pointing to concentrated revenue, continuing compute costs, large commitments, and run-rate figures he considers unreliable. He argues that data-center demand, project margins, and financing terms may not justify the scale of investment, with potential strains extending to companies and lenders tied to the buildout. The discussion also raises broader risks to GDP and markets if AI investment falters, alongside concerns about Oracle refinancing and a possible downturn in private credit and venture capital.
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Zitron argues that AI companies’ reported profitability can obscure the recurring investment needed to train and maintain models: he cites Anthropic spending $2.75 to generate a dollar of revenue, questions profitability after an $8 billion annual loss, and compares model investment to oil companies’ drilling costs. He also says rising revenue may not resolve Anthropic’s cash-flow needs because costs rise with revenue, while OpenAI is projected to spend $750 billion on compute through 2030.
Zitron describes concentrated counterparties on both sides of Anthropic’s business: about 47% of its revenue comes through Google and Amazon reselling its models, while 80% of Anthropic’s and OpenAI’s revenue comes from 1% of customers. Against that concentration, he cites Anthropic’s $518 billion in compute commitments, including $413 billion that are non-cancellable, as significant counterparty and financing risk relative to its $11.5 billion latest-quarter revenue.
Zitron questions headline AI revenue run rates because they can annualize a short period or non-recurring activity: he says OpenAI’s reported $70 billion run rate rose from $40 billion in a month, estimates its full-year revenue at $36 billion, and describes Anthropic’s $65 billion July figure as based on one day’s revenue multiplied by 365. He says unconfirmed online estimates show Anthropic’s run rate flattening while OpenAI grows and takes market share back.
Zitron argues that data-center economics may be strained by both financing costs and uncertain demand: he says even 30%–40% gross margins may not cover 10%–13% debt costs, and that OpenAI and Anthropic account for 80% of demand. He also cites CoreWeave’s estimated 13% financing cost on repriced bonds and analysts’ estimate that it may need to raise another $100 billion over four years.
Zitron points to a disconnect between AI-linked market enthusiasm and practical constraints: Oracle performed well after OpenAI’s reported $70 billion annualized run rate, despite its Port Washington data center lacking needed power. He also says Oracle is close to losing investment-grade status, which could force some funds to sell its bonds and make refinancing debt raised at 2.8% cost 5%–8%.
Zitron says debt markets may be less receptive to AI infrastructure financing than stock-market excitement suggests: he identifies debt as one source of planned AI capital expenditure and notes that an Amazon bond sale was subscribed 1.6 times, below the three to four times he says is generally desired. He predicts some bond sales could fail or require uneconomic rates, and warns that private-credit debt tied to volatile, low-margin data-center projects could go unpaid, identifying Blue Owl as heavily involved.
TECHNOLOGY
“They spent $2.75 to make a buck. Open AAI did $2.60. So, kind of the same, but Anthropic just mildly worse.”—
“So about 47% of Anthropic's revenue came through sales from Google and an Amazon reselling their models which is a worrying concentration risk considering Amazon fed $50 billion to OpenAI…”—
“We've had these stories about anthropic hitting profitability, but it's on an adjusted basis, which means it is not profitable. So, I mean, people are going to push part.”—
ECONOMY
“Inflation is a result of price gouging across the board and it has been for years and the media has failed on this and the only way the government could…”—
“When you actually look at the GDP growth that comes from even with real GDP, even though that's kind of wanked around with how software is measured by the BLS…”—
MARKETS
“It's just an equity investment. Perhaps they have some risk in the future of the net income cut, but nowhere near as bad as taking on $35 billion of debt…”—
“So you know a few months ago people were saying that OpenAI is going to go public in 2026 and that anthropic could go public as soon as September…”—
“The S&P 500's way too weighed on the big tech companies. The rest of the S&P 500, the cash flows aren't there…”—
FORECASTS
“The other problem that Oracle has is that they are dangerously close to being downgraded…”—
“How the hell does this work? How the hell does any of this work? And the answer is I think that it just breaks at some point…”—
“In fact, I think most of the private credit debt doesn't get paid here…”—
Intro
The host introduces Reuters’ reported figures, and Zitron argues Anthropic lost more per revenue dollar than OpenAI in 2025, with nearly half its revenue routed through Amazon and Google.
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Anthropic's S-1: A Worse Business Than OpenAI in 2025
Zitron argues Anthropic’s 2025 losses, concentrated reseller revenue, opaque profitability claims, and enormous compute obligations undermine its reputation as a more sustainable business than OpenAI.
$518 Billion in Compute Commitments
Zitron details Anthropic’s $518 billion in compute commitments, including non-cancellable contracts and Broadcom TPU arrangements, and warns that counterparties and lenders could face substantial exposure.
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Why AI Run Rates Can't Be Trusted
Zitron criticizes AI companies’ undefined run-rate claims, including annualizing brief periods of activity, and calls for audited figures and stronger disclosure requirements.
Is Anthropic's Growth Plateauing?
The speakers discuss whether Anthropic’s growth is flattening as OpenAI regains momentum, while noting that token billing, large contracts, and reported run rates obscure actual revenue trends.
Why Anthropic's IPO Keeps Getting Delayed
Zitron says Anthropic’s delayed IPO may reflect weak financials and investor concerns, alongside market concentration, AI-safety messaging, and uncertainty about its ability to fund massive commitments.
Meta's Muse, OpenAI's Dots, and the Agent Hype
Zitron questions the commercial value and costs of Meta’s Muse and OpenAI’s Dots, arguing that agent hype overlooks infrastructure burdens, privacy risks, and unclear revenue models.
Can AI Win Over the Public?
Zitron argues AI’s public image is difficult to improve because consumers see little tangible benefit, while data-center investment and chip demand can raise costs and worsen everyday affordability.
The AI Debt Problem: CoreWeave, Oracle, and SPVs
Zitron warns that high borrowing costs, weak project economics, and refinancing needs threaten CoreWeave, Oracle, and data-center special-purpose vehicles tied to AI buildout.
Will Private Credit Get Paid Back?
Zitron doubts private-credit lenders will reliably be repaid, citing project delays, mounting interest, repeated borrowing, fragile customer financing, and lenders’ exposure across the data-center ecosystem.
Where AI Will Be a Year From Now
Zitron predicts that AI’s capital demands could trigger failed projects, weaker technology stocks, and broader economic strain, arguing that infrastructure spending has not yet delivered comparable productivity gains.
Ed's Base Case for the Anthropic IPO
Zitron’s base case is that Anthropic may reach an IPO despite uncertain 2026 numbers, potentially at a lofty valuation, while warning that its stock and the offering could prove volatile.
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