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This Time Gold Will Rise While Stocks Crash | Alasdair Macleod

Macleod argues that fuel and food pressures, weakening currencies, and rising debt costs could intensify inflation and expose governments to debt traps. He sees gold as protection against declining credit and currency values, citing past periods when it rose during equity-market weakness. He also expects higher yields to threaten equities and predicts that commodities could outperform gold in the scenario he outlines.

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Macleod says the Houthis have effectively halted Saudi Arabia’s oil exports, which normally run at roughly 7–8 million barrels per day; separately, he predicts Saudi Arabia’s debt-to-GDP ratio could rise from 33% to 100% within months amid collapsing GDP, no income, and enormous expenses.

Macleod links the Iran war to higher diesel, kerosene, and ship-bunker costs that raise transportation expenses, and predicts that expensive fuel, drought-related food shortages, and severe El Niño conditions will push livestock prices higher. He argues this would not be a temporary inflation spike and that either higher rates or weaker currencies would be bullish for gold, while rate increases would deepen the debt trap.

Macleod argues that higher costs could squeeze industrial margins and impair businesses’ ability to finance debt, triggering a slump that reduces tax revenue and raises welfare commitments. He contrasts this with past crises that began in the private sector, warning that a crisis originating in the public sector could spread to private businesses; he defines a debt trap as government revenue failing to cover rising interest costs.

Macleod says the Iran war has brought forward a significant decline in the dollar’s purchasing power and expects yields could exceed 10% or even reach 30%; he argues that higher yields could expose a debt trap and weaken the dollar if politicians refuse to address it. If employment fell to roughly 10–15%, he predicts the Fed would use what he calls limitless QE, which he says would further raise yields because of debt-trap concerns.

With yields above 5%, Macleod says equities are already dangerous and warns that further rate increases could pop the equity bubble, noting fatigue in AI stocks. He expects foreign investors—who have roughly $25 trillion invested—to run for the exits if the currency and equity market fall, while acknowledging that not all of that investment can leave.

GEO-POLITICS

Saudi Oil Exports — Macleod claims the Houthis have effectively stopped Saudi Arabia’s oil exports, calling it a major crisis. He contrasts the stoppage with normal exports of roughly 7–8 million barrels per day.

“Furthermore, the situation in the Middle East is worsening because the Houthis have now effectively stopped all Saudi Arabia's oil exports. I mean, like all of it…”—

ECONOMY

Fiat System — Macleod argues that replacing contracting commercial-bank credit with newly created dollars and bank reserves would contribute to the end of the fiat currency system. He says a country could return to a gold standard and claims China and Russia could do so.

“Meanwhile, high bond yields mean that there'll be corporate failures in zombies, if you like, in the in the private sector. So, they've got to try and rescue them…”—

Saudi Debt Outlook — Macleod predicts Saudi Arabia’s debt-to-GDP ratio could rise from 33% to 100% within months. He links the increase to collapsing GDP, no income, and enormous expenses.

“we have you know we have a problem that Saudi Arabia now has no income and it's got enormous expenses…”—

Industrial Slump — Macleod argues that higher costs could compress industrial margins and leave businesses unable to finance debt, triggering an industrial slump. He says the slump would reduce tax revenue and increase welfare commitments, widening the budget deficit.

“the consequences of all this disruption and higher prices for industry is they're not going to be able to pass these prices on which means their margins are going to…”—

MARKETS

War-Driven Fuel Costs — Macleod argues that the Iran war is pushing up prices for diesel, kerosene, and ship bunkers. Because logistics depend on those fuels, he says transportation costs are rising.

“You have this war in Iran which is completely needless but nevertheless it is driving up prices across the board…”—

Gold ETF Inflows — The host cites nearly $10 billion in gold ETF inflows in September, even as gold fell about 8% that month. Macleod says buyers seeking 10–20 tons could source metal through refiners or wholesale markets without greatly affecting price, given the market’s size.

“and it's it's extraordinary to me because the World Gold Council reported that nearly $10 billion flowed into gold ETFs in September alone, September…”—

Treasury Yield Pullback — Macleod says bonds rallied and the 10-year Treasury yield fell from about 5.35% to just below 5.2%. He attributes the move partly to investors who considered yields attractive.

“And I noticed that I think it was Black Rock said something about it might have been Goldman's I don't know said something about you know these yields are attractive…”—

FORECASTS

Livestock Prices — Macleod predicts that a severe El Niño, drought-related food shortages, and expensive fuel will contribute to significantly higher livestock prices. He rejects the view that inflation is only a temporary spike.

“At the same time, we have the most vicious El Nino in decades, which is going to hit the northern hemisphere in its winter…”—

Inflation and Gold — Macleod argues that fuel, food, and livestock-price pressures will not be a temporary inflation spike. He says either rates rise to defend currency purchasing power or currencies lose value; in his view, both outcomes are bullish for gold, while rate increases would deepen the debt trap.

“So, we're going to have a combination, if you like, of very expensive fuel, food shortages as a result of the drought that we've had, early on this year…”—

Foreign Dollar Selling — Macleod argues that U.S. retrenchment from the Middle East and Europe leaves large quantities of dollars in foreign hands, and predicts holders will sell them. He presents gold as the alternative.

“America is in effect being kicked out of the Middle East. It's all bottled up in Israel at the moment from what I understand…”—

Intro

Aaron introduces Macleod’s warning that rising Treasury yields could signal a debt spiral, while setting up the conflict between rising inflation and falling precious-metal prices.

Gold’s $1,500 Drop and the 20% Treasury Yield Prediction

Macleod says the United States is already in a debt spiral, with energy and food pressures likely to persist and force either higher rates or declining currency purchasing power.

Is America Already in a Debt Spiral?

Macleod argues gold’s dollar price can fall even as its value as money remains intact, and says commodities are unusually cheap relative to gold after distortions in paper markets.

Why Is Gold Falling Despite Rising Inflation?

He warns that higher yields could make U.S. government debt unfinanceable, weaken the dollar, and expose the equity market—especially highly valued AI stocks and leveraged investors—to a sharp decline.

The U.S. Debt Crisis and Rising Bond Yields

Macleod rejects the idea that Treasury yields have peaked, arguing investors underestimate the credit crisis, though government-linked institutions may temporarily support bond prices.

Stock Market Crash Warning: AI Stocks and the Equity Bubble

He says foreign holders may sell U.S. assets first as dollar risks rise, and discusses how Saudi Arabia’s loss of oil revenue could force asset sales and worsen its fiscal outlook.

Have U.S. Treasury Yields Finally Peaked?

Macleod explains that crude benchmarks understate the energy shock because refined-product spreads have surged, implying a much higher underlying value for oil.

Foreign Investors, Saudi Arabia and U.S. Asset Sales

He expects the Fed to print heavily to support employment and the financial system, but says unlimited quantitative easing would undermine confidence in the dollar and push bond yields higher.

Oil Prices and the Global Energy Crisis

Unlike 2008, Macleod says this crisis originates in the public sector, leaving governments without room to rescue the private sector by borrowing and expanding credit.

Will the Fed Print Money to Save the Stock Market?

He argues that holding cash or remaining heavily exposed to credit assets could be disastrous, since gold provides protection against declining currency and credit values.

Why This Debt Crisis Is Different From 2008

Macleod says most investors are slow to recognize currency weakness and may rush into physical assets only later, when a crackup boom accelerates the currency’s decline.

The Biggest Financial Mistake Investors Can Make

He attributes gold’s stable long-run purchasing power to the slow growth of above-ground supply and its independence from government money creation.

Will Gold Rise While Stocks Crash?

Macleod disputes the assumption that gold must fall with stocks, citing the 1970s bear market and oil shock as periods when gold rose amid equity weakness and inflation.

Gold During the 2008 Crash and the Risk to Mining Stocks

He recalls that gold briefly fell during the 2008 crash before climbing substantially, and argues gold and commodities could rise even as equities collapse, while mining shares carry additional liquidation risk.

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