Gracy Chen: This Will Trigger Bitcoin's Bull Market
Chen sees crypto's clearest near-term opportunities in financial infrastructure, including stablecoins and tokenized assets, while noting that many crypto-native applications have yet to deliver on their promises. She says the four-year cycle points to bear-market risk in 2026 and links a potential $1 million Bitcoin price by 2035 to conditions including continued strength and reserve buying. The host separately points to possible adoption and liquidity gains if the Clarity Act passes.
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Chen says the coming weeks will be important for whether the U.S. advances a Bitcoin reserve and whether the Clarity Act passes, but midterm timing and the difficulty of bipartisan support leave both outcomes uncertain. The host says Clarity Act approval could bring more adoption or liquidity into crypto markets.
Chen says Bitcoin's rise from about $65,000 to $80,000 and the rapid shift in sentiment were not matched by a comparable change in fundamentals; she points to Trump's crypto conference and support for the Clarity Act while noting passage remained uncertain. Separately, the host reports renewed messages from people who had ignored crypto for two years and increased trading volume, while cautioning that this is anecdotal rather than a market-wide measure.
Chen sees blockchain's financial-infrastructure potential in stablecoins that could reduce some cross-border transaction and foreign-exchange fees—about 6% by the World Bank estimate she cites—and in tokenized stocks and commodities. She says tokenized private credit and money market funds currently have the highest penetration, at about 0.5% to 1%, describes collaboration with the NYSE and Nasdaq as an opportunity, and predicts real-world asset penetration could reach about 10% by 2030 and 20% to 30% by 2035.
Chen says many crypto-native applications have not fulfilled their promises and that many projects lack long-term sustainability; the host similarly argues that protocols and utility coins have struggled to generate value, with some projects facing selling after launch. The host says successful chains need a distinct utility people want to use, citing Zcash's privacy features as an example.
GEO-POLITICS
“I think the upcoming few weeks are indeed very important important, you know, right before midterm whether clarity act can be passed and then the finance department will really spend…”—
TECHNOLOGY
“That's not true. No matter it's bachelor's STEM subjects or it's you know master's degree we actually see a very equal ratio…”—
“so many times when when we think about you know technology subjects or finance subjects that that at least as a as a subject for studying it's actually quite equal…”—
“Similarly I think everyone should at least own one Bitcoin or you know 0…”—
MARKETS
“But if you look at protocols themselves or like actual utility coins, they still can't find an actual way of generating value within its own protocol…”—
“We listed their token and we started to see the volume going up but it's mainly until this year when there are more stocks such as SpaceX listed such as…”—
“But the markets are now hopefully consistently waking up with Bitcoin breaking from like $65,000 to now $80,000.”—
FORECASTS
“And if you look at the four-year cycle, this seems to me more of the bare market or starting of a bare market than a start of a bull market…”—
“So my 10% vision is that by 2030 all these penetration ratio should be around 10%. Hopefully…”—
Intro
Women In Crypto
Bitcoin Mass Adoption
Crypto's Innovation Dilemma
AI And Crypto
Real World Assets
Market Sentiment
Competing As An Exchange
Building Trust
Challenges Ahead
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