PodcastThe Wolf Of All StreetsHunter Horsley

Bitcoin Crashed. 15 Major Investors Were Asked If They Sold. Not One Did

The guest argues that crypto adoption is advancing, but limited investor attention, perceived client disinterest, and gaps in onchain infrastructure remain obstacles. He sees potential for advisers to extend familiar services into onchain finance, while a proposed SEC custody rule could support stablecoins, vaults, and tokenized assets. Market discussion points to institutional investors holding or adding crypto during the bear market, ETF adoption challenges, and a growing focus on whether blockchain usage creates value for tokens.

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The guest sees a path for advisers to extend familiar cash-yield and custody services into onchain finance: he says non-custodial stablecoin vaults could offer 5% yield, while the SEC custody proposal could enable stablecoin custody, vault participation, and tokenized assets. That opportunity stands against the $40 trillion U.S. wealth-management sector’s current lack of infrastructure integrated with onchain operations.

The guest argues that crypto’s remaining adoption barrier is increasingly investors’ limited attention, not just infrastructure or access: advisers must prioritize client development, U.S. equity risk, AI, and credit, while many assume clients are uninterested. He says that perception is often wrong, even as potential users are busy and focused on other matters, including the bond market.

Crypto engagement appears to be progressing on both institutional and political fronts, though the bullets do not establish a connection between them: the guest says major financial institutions are entering crypto without waiting for regulatory clarity, and a survey of 15 large investors found none sold during the bear market, with most adding exposure. Separately, the guest predicts crypto will gain broader, less partisan support across America over the next two years.

GEO-POLITICS

Crypto Bipartisanship — The guest predicts that two years from now, after the administration changes, crypto will have broader support across America and less partisan opposition. He argues that harming crypto would also harm most Americans, retirees, and financial institutions.

“but I think I think there's no stopping this train and I think two years hence if you know when when the administration changes I think I think everyone in…”—

TECHNOLOGY

Onchain Infrastructure — The guest says U.S. wealth management oversees $40 trillion but lacks infrastructure integrated with onchain operations. That limits clients’ ability to participate directly in onchain capital markets and credit.

“because in the US, wealth management looks after $40 trillion but fully relies on a stack of infrastructure that is just not integrated with being able to operate on chain.”—

Stablecoin Vaults — The guest says advisers could help clients use non-custodial wallets to earn 5% yield on stablecoins through vaults, extending familiar cash-yield services into onchain finance. He expects this could enable more activity in 2027.

“but perhaps rather is equipping their client with a non-custodial wallet where they help them secure the seed phrase but then enable them to earn a 5% yield on their…”—

Adoption Barriers — The guest argues that crypto has progressively addressed barriers such as the lack of exchanges and qualified custodians, as well as concerns about government action. In his view, the remaining obstacle in 2026 is that potential users are busy and focused on other matters, including the bond market.

“Yeah…”—

ECONOMY

Custody Proposal — The host says the SEC proposed allowing registered investment advisers to custody client assets themselves, including assets without a qualified custodian. He calls it a significant step but questions whether advisers will use it. The guest says the proposal could enable stablecoin custody, vault participation, and tokenized assets—not just conventional crypto portfolio exposure.

“I did find it interesting the SEC was actually proposing that some of these RAS could custody the assets basically in their own self-custody on behalf of clients, which was…”—

MARKETS

ETF Substitution — The speakers say some advisers and clients who previously held spot Bitcoin or Solana through crypto custodians are moving those holdings into ETFs to simplify administration.

“Yeah…”—

Token Value — The speaker says evaluations of public blockchains are increasingly focused on revenue and whether blockchain usage creates value that flows to the token. In his view, this theme can help explain why certain assets are performing well.

“I think that that's also happening with public blockchains…”—

Institutional Holdings — The host says a survey of 15 large investors found that none sold crypto holdings during the bear market; most added exposure, and every respondent owned Bitcoin.

“You I've been I've been sending this to everyone to dunk on them that you guys did the survey and 15 large investors obviously and that none of them sold…”—

New SEC Custody Rules and What They Mean for RIAs

The guest says the SEC custody proposal is less likely to change advisers’ use of crypto ETFs than to clear a path for clients to access stablecoin yield, onchain vaults, and tokenized assets.

Why Advisors Are Moving Spot Crypto Into ETFs

The guest describes a growing reverse migration: some advisers who previously arranged spot crypto custody are moving client holdings into ETFs for simpler administration.

Onchain Portfolios, Vaults and AI-Managed Strategies

The guest argues that advisers may eventually help clients use noncustodial wallets and vaults, while Bitwise’s automated token portfolios show how strategies could be delivered directly to wallets without pooled funds.

Bitwise’s NEAR ETF and the Future of Single-Asset Crypto ETFs

Bitwise launched a Near ETF after seeing investor demand; the guest says its early $50 million in assets supports continued experimentation with single-asset products.

Why Crypto Index Funds Could Win With Mainstream Investors

The guest expects crypto indexes to become more appealing as mainstream investors arrive, since busy investors may prefer diversified exposure over choosing individual tokens.

How Crypto Index Funds Reach Wealth Managers

The guest says the Bitwise 10 index rebalances monthly by rules, adapting as assets such as Hyperliquid, Uniswap, and Zcash gain or lose standing; wealth managers could drive broader adoption.

Institutions Never Really Left Crypto

A Bitwise survey found that none of 15 institutional investors sold crypto during the bear market, and the guest says institutional conviction is often invisible because investors rarely publicize their positions.

How Much of Wall Street Can Actually Buy Crypto Today?

The guest estimates crypto-product access reaches roughly two-thirds of the relevant U.S. market, but stresses that approval alone does not prompt investment when advisers and clients are busy.

Why Higher Crypto Prices Drive Adoption

The guest says higher prices help validate crypto’s investment narrative, but both falling prices and rapid surges can make investors hesitate; steady positive performance creates a more favorable window.

The Biggest Obstacle to Crypto Adoption Has Changed

The guest says the most common adoption obstacle is advisers believing their clients are uninterested, while older concerns such as energy use and illicit activity have receded.

Does Crypto Still Need the Clarity Act?

The guest sees the Clarity Act as potentially useful but not essential to continued adoption, noting that major financial institutions are moving ahead under existing laws and rules.

What Bitwise Is Most Excited About Next

The guest highlights Bitwise’s Near ETF as an investment at the AI-and-crypto intersection and points to rising conversions of spot holdings into ETF shares for simplicity.

Final Thoughts

The host and guest close by discussing Near’s ecosystem and investor interest before thanking one another and wrapping up the interview.

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