Bitcoin Hasn’t Done This Since 2012 - Then It Went Up 2,000% | Tristan Thompson
The discussion examines stablecoin settlement, on-chain access to private companies, and the potential for AI competition to drive prices toward zero while concentrating the market among four to five winners. It also addresses Bitcoin's tax-related liquidity risk, shifting crypto liquidity, institutional flows, ETF positioning, and technical signals including MVRV and moving averages. Tristan Thompson identifies Zcash as a potential cycle runner and sees Solana as having a possible approximately 2x path from roughly $115–$117 to $240.
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Stablecoin infrastructure is moving into mainstream payment networks, with Mastercard and SoFi reportedly shifting $25 billion in annual card settlement onto stablecoin rails, while Hyperliquid is extending crypto access to on-chain exposure to private companies. The host nevertheless questions whether this infrastructure growth directly benefits holders of any specific token.
The episode presents AI as both a pricing and cost-disruption story: the host argues that competition, including from China, could drive model prices toward a “race to zero,” while the guest expects only four to five durable winners. The guest also cites a five-minute AI-produced film costing about $1 million versus roughly $30 million for a comparable conventional production.
Crypto exposure still creates practical financial risks beyond price volatility: Bitcoin-denominated salary can leave recipients owing taxes based on a higher original value after the asset falls, while the guest says leverage and position size should match an investor’s risk tolerance and time horizon.
The discussion contrasts crypto’s narrative-driven pockets with a utility-based approach: the guest evaluates projects by real-world usage, user relevance, and a credible business case, while specifically rejecting the XRP maximalist thesis that XRP will succeed Bitcoin. The host also describes market activity as concentrated in Bitcoin and a few liquid assets on one side and highly speculative tokens on the other.
Altcoin participation appears narrow rather than broadly profitable: the median coin has less than one-quarter of its supply in profit, liquidity is concentrating in a small number of established projects, and some participants have rotated into robotics, drones, and AI during the bearish period.
TECHNOLOGY
“So, I don't know if you saw this story, Mastercard and SoFi team on stable coin settlement card. So, this is 25 billion a year…”—
“Well, I mean, I got exposure anthropic, you know, back in, you know, series series C…”—
“I mean, this was kind of the one of the big stories in AI today is anthropic and open AAI roll out cheaper models in first release since call for…”—
ECONOMY
“Right?…”—
MARKETS
“So, we got this just starting here, right? I mean, Bitcoin on a streak. It hasn't hit since 2012.”—
“The XRP community has done a very very good job selling to people that XRP could be the next Bitcoin, right?…”—
“So you don't need to worry about that. Don't worry about that. I said this was Black Rock. Yeah, this was years ago. Yeah. Kid you not…”—
FORECASTS
“Yeah, I mean I think this is one of the runners of our cycle, right? I think with Zcash, you're right…”—
Bitcoin’s Three-Month Streak Not Seen Since 2012
The host and Tristan discuss Bitcoin’s unusual three-month winning streak, while cautioning that short-term green candles can still reverse before month-end.
Tristan Thompson on Bitcoin’s Latest Rally
Tristan views Bitcoin as a long-term accumulation asset, remaining encouraged by green months but emphasizing consistent stacking over attempts to time rallies.
Why Tristan Wishes He Took His NBA Salary in Bitcoin
Tristan regrets not taking part of his 2016 NBA compensation in Bitcoin, which was then worth only a few hundred dollars.
Crypto Adoption Among NBA Players
They explain that athletes paid in Bitcoin still owe income taxes, potentially forcing sales during a decline and exposing the shortcomings of current tax treatment.
Tristan’s Take on Zcash
Tristan says NBA players frequently ask about Bitcoin, XRP, Solana, and meme coins, showing growing curiosity but also a tendency to appear only after market pumps.
How Tristan Thompson Got Into Bitcoin
Tristan considers Zcash a strong potential cycle runner because of its privacy narrative, while rejecting the idea that it simply represents a new Bitcoin.
Why BlackRock Told Tristan Not to Buy Bitcoin
Tristan describes discovering Bitcoin after initially dismissing it, then learning about altcoins, staking, perpetual trading, liquidity provision, and broader crypto infrastructure.
How Tristan Decides What to Invest In
BlackRock advisers once discouraged Tristan from buying Bitcoin because of volatility, but he later saw Larry Fink embrace it and moved capital into BTC independently.
Why Crypto Is Consolidating Around a Few Winners
Tristan evaluates investments through real-world usefulness, personal relevance, and credible narratives rather than social-media excitement or other investors’ enthusiasm.
Tristan’s Degenerate Side: Perps and Meme Coins
The speakers argue that crypto is consolidating around a few liquid winners as many weaker tokens remain deeply underwater and new projects receive less funding.
Making Money as a Liquidity Provider
Tristan discusses basketball.fun as an advisory project that ultimately bought out his involvement, illustrating how he has monetized his time and expertise.
Tristan’s Advice for New Crypto Investors
Tristan acknowledges his speculative side, trading meme coins and on-chain assets while treating decentralized markets as a mobile substitute for casino entertainment.
Balancing Bitcoin With High-Risk Crypto Trades
Tristan reports earning roughly $70,000 in one month providing liquidity on Meteora, then converting the profits into Solana and staking them.
Tristan’s Early Investment in Anthropic
Tristan advises newcomers to match strategies to their risk tolerance, distinguish long-term conviction from quick trades, and avoid leverage they cannot withstand.
Pre-IPO Investing vs. Trading Private Companies Onchain
They describe crypto as a barbell combining Bitcoin and understandable assets on one side with highly speculative, casino-like trading on the other.
Anthropic vs. OpenAI
Tristan says he invests in AI companies including Anthropic and OpenAI, seeing private-market exposure as a complementary opportunity alongside crypto.
How AI Could Transform the Movie Industry
They discuss traditional pre-IPO investing versus on-chain access through platforms such as Hyperliquid, which can broaden exposure to otherwise inaccessible private companies.
Bitcoin ETF Inflows Signal Real Spot Demand
Tristan compares OpenAI’s quick factual answers with Anthropic’s deeper ideation, predicting four or five major AI winners while others race toward zero pricing.
Bitcoin Flashes More Bull Market Signals
Tristan believes AI-generated filmmaking could dramatically reduce production costs, making million-dollar projects look like conventional thirty-million-dollar movies.
Final Thoughts
The host closes with Bitcoin ETF inflows, MVRV, moving averages, taxable-loan alternatives, and bullish signals before thanking Tristan and previewing upcoming guests.
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