PodcastThe Wolf Of All StreetsNoelle Acheson

Bitcoin DUMPS To $83K As Bond Yields Break 24 - Year Highs

The discussion spans crypto regulation and financial access, stablecoin competition, and the potential effects of AI on markets and banking. Speakers highlight Bitcoin's resilience despite conditions that could weigh on liquidity, while also noting its volatility, competition from AI investments, and uncertainty around its four-year cycle. They also point to rising yields, Treasury liquidity measures, and the prospect of intervention and money printing as important forces shaping markets.

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The SEC is considering both crypto custody options for registered investment advisers, including for assets without legacy custodians, and changes to accredited-investor rules that the speaker says could widen access to new technologies. The discussion also cited a crypto fundraising route allowing up to $5 million from nonaccredited investors based on a white paper, with a four- or five-year horizon and no subsequent reporting.

Stablecoins are becoming a regulatory and competitive battleground: large banks and a Stripe-led consortium are entering a field that includes USDC and USDT, while regional and community banks are suing over crypto firms seeking bank charters and launching stablecoins. The guest says stablecoins could reshape financial plumbing and trade relationships globally, while the GENIUS Act’s implementation details remain to be filled in.

The speakers see several unsettled fronts in AI adoption: one argues that open models may gain ground because they are faster and cheaper, even if closed models are more powerful, while another expects mobile AI eventually to overtake fixed AI. The latter speaker says that possibility is not reflected in current data-center expectations, which they call unrealistic.

Two potential mechanisms could move cash out of low-yield passive accounts: the guest warns that AI agents might shift deposits earning less than 1% into fintech accounts paying 3% or 4%, and says smart contracts could move idle balances into tokenized money-market funds and back out for payments. Retail access to money-market funds remains constrained by securities rules, and the guest identifies fintechs—not stablecoins—as the focus of the deposit-flight concern.

GEO-POLITICS

Strategic Industries — The speaker would not be surprised to see manufacturing return to the United States and expects the defense buildup to drive domestic hardware production. They also expect greater state involvement in industries tied to national security, including AI, hardware, biotech, and agriculture.

“I wouldn't be surprised to see manufacturing come back to the US…”—

Crypto Custody — The SEC is analyzing whether registered investment advisers could custody crypto for themselves and clients, including smaller assets without an available legacy custodian. The speaker calls the announcement a significant signal.

“But one of the announcements the SEC made last week that seemingly nobody noticed in the because the innovation exemption reg crypto were so big was that they're analyzing how…”—

Investor Eligibility — The speaker argues that accredited-investor rules can restrict access to new technologies and favor people who are already wealthy. The SEC is considering relaxing the requirements, possibly through an exam. The discussion also describes a crypto fundraising route that allows up to $5 million from nonaccredited investors based on a white paper, with a four- or five-year horizon and no subsequent reporting.

“But the SEC is now looking into relaxing the accredited investor requirements by simply an exam or something like that, which let's face it, many of us would be very…”—

TECHNOLOGY

Open AI Models — The speaker argues that open AI models may gain dominance because they are faster and cheaper, even if closed models offer more powerful products. Many users, the speaker says, do not need the strongest offerings.

“We have China that is going for a more open approach…”—

Mobile AI — The speaker says mobile AI will eventually win over fixed AI, a possibility they argue is not reflected in current data-center expectations. They call those expectations unrealistic.

“We know that eventually mobile is going to win over fixed because what's wrong with having an AI in your watch, right?…”—

ECONOMY

Inflation Target — The speaker argues that the Federal Reserve's 2% inflation target supports its credibility; changing it to 3% could weaken confidence in the Fed's commitment. In this view, the target's value depends on keeping it fixed.

“And what matters with the percent target, Scott, is not the actual level itself, but the credibility behind it…”—

Deposit Flight Risk — The guest describes a potential deposit-flight risk if AI agents automatically move balances from passive accounts earning less than 1% to fintech accounts paying 3% or 4%. The guest says the concern was more about fintechs than stablecoins.

“He said the big threat to banks or to deposit flight and those things would be AI agents sweeping…”—

MARKETS

Bitcoin Resilience — The speaker says Bitcoin's resilience is notable: higher yields, rate-hike expectations, oil, and the dollar should theoretically dampen liquidity, to which Bitcoin is sensitive. Despite falling to $83,000, Bitcoin was outperforming stocks and gold. The speaker also points to a 24% weekly candle, a move above moving averages, and a new higher high, while cautioning against broad conclusions from a short period.

“Yeah. No, totally. It's the there are signs of a tightening environment and so it is surprising it hasn't been down. We have the higher yields…”—

Treasury Buybacks — The Treasury increased buybacks from $3 billion to $6 billion, against roughly $40 trillion in debt. The speaker says the amount was immaterial relative to the debt stock; the signal of possible intervention mattered more.

“So obviously there was some level at which the Treasury decided to signal that they would intervene, right?…”—

MOVE Index — The guest says spikes in the MOVE Index, which measures implied volatility in long-term U.S. Treasury options, generally indicate that Treasury-market liquidity is drying up. As traders step aside, liquidity can fall further.

“But no, the move index measures the implied volatility in the options market of long-term US treasuries mainly. And that is supposed to be stable…”—

FORECASTS

Long Bonds — The host notes that TLT, the 20-plus-year Treasury bond ETF, made an all-time low the prior month relative to its history since 2002. The host says the chart does not suggest that interest rates have topped or bonds have bottomed.

“I just pulled this up because it's one of my favorites is the TLT chart, which is obviously the 20 plus year Treasury bond ETF…”—

Bitcoin Holds Above $83K

The hosts see Bitcoin holding up unusually well despite higher yields, oil, and dollar strength, and consider whether its recent breakout signals a shift in market behavior.

Treasury Intervention Signals

The guest describes Treasury buybacks as a signal of official concern rather than classic yield-curve control or quantitative easing, with further intervention tools still possible.

MOVE Index And Bond Liquidity

The guest explains that a rising MOVE Index can indicate traders retreating from Treasuries and warn of strained liquidity, potentially prompting Fed or Treasury action.

Inflation Data And Fed Credibility

The speakers question the reliability and significance of monthly economic data, while arguing that the Fed’s 2% inflation target matters chiefly because it anchors institutional credibility.

Narrow Market And AI Rotation

They note that index gains conceal widespread declines among individual stocks, while rapid rotations into AI-related sectors keep markets resilient but leave breadth and sentiment vulnerable.

AI Business Models And State Involvement

The guest warns that AI valuations assume profitable closed models even as cheaper open systems and mobile AI could reshape demand, and anticipates greater government involvement in strategic industries.

Bitcoin Cycle And Institutional Adoption

The speakers debate whether Bitcoin’s four-year cycle still applies, citing AI competition, macro shifts, global corporate adoption, and improved institutional custody as important factors.

Crypto Custody And Investor Access

They highlight possible SEC support for registered advisers to custody crypto and reconsider accredited-investor rules, arguing that current restrictions limit access to emerging assets.

Europe’s Crypto Regulation

The speakers compare Europe’s established crypto framework with US uncertainty, noting MiCA’s implementation, regional institutional adoption, and continued limits on some products.

Stablecoin Competition And Utility

The discussion weighs bank and fintech stablecoins against tokenized deposits and money-market funds, emphasizing payment utility, transaction velocity, and the risk of deposit competition.

Rising Yields And Intervention

The guest expects higher inflation and yields to eventually force intervention and money creation, while the host points to long-term Treasury weakness as a warning sign.

Stablecoins And Financial Access

The guest discusses crypto’s growing role in access to finance and global stablecoin adoption, then the host closes by directing listeners to her writing and show.

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