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State of Distressed: Bloomberg’s Diaz-Matos on LME Whack-a-Mole

The discussion examines how covenant erosion and complex credit documents have enabled liability-management transactions, with cases including Serta, J. Crew, and Optimum illustrating the stakes for borrowers and lenders. Optimum’s asset transfers, refinancing, and circular financing are under lender challenge, while separate discussions weigh liquidity and restructuring risks at the wireless bankruptcy estate and Getty Images. The speakers also assess recent high-yield weakness and suggest stronger covenant protection could support higher debt prices.

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September’s credit selloff was broad: the ICE US high-yield index fell 2.5% as Treasury yields rose 55 basis points and spreads widened 48 basis points, while distressed debt fell 5.1%. The speaker also relayed the view that covenants can signal weaker credit quality, and speculated that stronger covenant protection might lift some debt trading in the 60s into the 80s.

Diaz-Matos said covenant quality has deteriorated through changes to voting provisions and EBITDA definitions and the removal of covenants, helping create conditions for modern liability-management transactions. He also questioned whether today’s much longer agreements are more protective, while noting that AI can review a corpus of loan documents for concerns and could make drafting faster and more efficient.

Several liability-management disputes turned on routes around document restrictions: Realogy was blocked by a collateral-document restriction, J. Crew moved IP through a non-guarantor restricted subsidiary before transferring it to an unrestricted subsidiary, and Aston Martin’s blocker did not prevent an IP transfer to a non-guarantor restricted subsidiary. Diaz-Matos also cited Xerox’s joint-venture transfer of its brand and other IP as an example of how typical covenants may not reach a new transaction structure.

Serta’s use of a non-pro-rata exchange under an open-market-purchase exception left excluded lenders behind; the Fifth Circuit rejected the transaction as an open-market purchase, and the bankruptcy court later awarded those lenders about $261 million plus prejudgment interest. Diaz-Matos linked the dispute to covenant drift and seemingly small drafting distinctions, and said significant damages in non-pro-rata deals could push lender groups toward pro-rata solutions.

Diaz-Matos said borrowers increasingly may execute a transaction and leave lenders to challenge it, rather than having lenders self-police against agreement language; he illustrated how a 79.5%-of-EBITDA transfer threshold could leave a route around a restriction. Sacred rights can provide more durable protection because ordinary covenants can be changed, but examples such as Ankora and Wesco show issuers finding ways to meet heightened consent thresholds, while after-the-fact Serta blockers may not prevent future transactions.

EA bondholders are seeking a par takeout on bonds that traded in the low 80s, illustrating how covenants can offer investors upside as well as downside protection. That potential benefit sits alongside Diaz-Matos’s warning that covenant quality has deteriorated over time and his view that sacred rights can preserve protections that ordinary covenants cannot.

TECHNOLOGY

AI Covenant Review — AI can identify a concern across a corpus of loan documents, rather than requiring an attorney to review each document individually. Diaz-Matos said this should improve contractual efficiency and could enable faster, tighter drafting.

“Right?…”—

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MARKETS

September Credit Weakness — In September, the ICE US high-yield index fell 2.5%, its worst month in four years, as 10-year Treasury yields rose 55 basis points and spreads widened 48 basis points. The distressed cohort fell 5.1% for the month and nearly 12% year to date; its distressed ratio reached 5.1%. Communications had the highest sector ratio at 12.1%, followed by consumer discretionary at 6.7% and technology at 6.4%. The speaker noted that October and November are historically credit-negative, and that near-term refinancing needs leave struggling credits vulnerable to rising long-term rates.

“September was high yield's worst month in four years as the ICE US high yield index gave back nearly all of its gains since the beginning of the year, falling…”—

EA Bondholder Takeout — EA bondholders are seeking a 101, or par, takeout on bonds that traded in the low 80s. The case illustrates how covenants can offer investors upside as well as downside protection.

“But occasionally as well, from an investor perspective, you can see covenants as a potential for upside that's playing out in the market right now with EA and bondholders trying…”—

Covenant Deterioration — Diaz-Matos said covenant quality and architecture have deteriorated over time, including changes to voting provisions and EBITDA definitions, as well as the elimination of covenants. He said that erosion helped create the conditions for the modern liability-management era.

“Covenant architecture holistically has been degraded over time. So you have changes to voting provisions, underlying definitions like EBITDA and the elimination of covenants whole wholesale.”—

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FORECASTS

Covenant Premium — The speaker speculated that some debt trading in the 60s might trade in the 80s if covenant protection were stronger and the threat of an LME less pronounced.

“And so I wonder whether some of the paper that is trading today in the sixties would be in the eighties if they had better covenant protection and this threat…”—

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High-Yield Distress

Phil reports September’s sharp high-yield and distressed-market losses, rising yields, and elevated distress ratios, while warning that the credit market remains vulnerable.

Covenant Purpose

Alex frames covenants as contractual protections whose value depends on perspective, offering lenders downside protection and sometimes upside while limiting borrower flexibility.

Covenant Erosion

Alex says covenant protections have weakened through investor behavior, changing market conditions, degraded definitions, voting rules, and the disappearance of important bondholder protections.

J. Crew And Windstream

The speakers trace early liability-management lessons from Realogy and J. Crew, then discuss Windstream’s covenant enforcement and the market’s response to net-short voting.

Serta Open-Market Exception

Alex explains that open-market purchase language began as a tool for discounted repurchases, but weakened guardrails and document drift enabled its use in Serta’s uptier transaction.

Ambiguous Loan Language

The speakers examine why key terms remained undefined, how drafting choices and copied provisions create unintended consequences, and why contracts cannot anticipate every future transaction.

Sacred Rights And Blockers

Alex says sacred rights offer rare durable protections, while Serta and J. Crew blockers often patch prior transactions without reliably preventing new workarounds.

Aston Martin And Xerox

Aston Martin and Xerox show how borrowers can route around transaction-specific blockers through other subsidiaries or joint ventures, leaving lenders exposed despite extensive drafting.

Optimum Lender Challenge

Phil reviews Optimum’s asset transfers and refinancing maneuvers, while Alex says a broad creditor cooperation agreement has constrained the company despite weak covenants.

Creditor Coordination

The speakers weigh how Optimum’s cooperation group can strengthen lenders’ position while limiting deal flexibility, and discuss antitrust questions and the role of stronger covenants.

AI And Covenant Drafting

Alex expects AI to help identify covenant issues across documents and accelerate drafting changes, but says judicial decisions will still resolve important ambiguities.

Covenants In Practice

Alex concludes that covenant language matters more than its presumed intent, illustrating how bespoke protections may signal credit concerns rather than prevent distress.

Optimum Fraud Claims

Nagisa outlines lenders’ Optimum lawsuit, which challenges a complex sequence of asset transfers and refinancing as fraudulent, contractually prohibited, and potentially subject to unwinding.

Wireless And Hughes Estates

Nagisa says shrinking liquidity and expensive disputes raise Chapter 7 conversion risks at the wireless estate and Hughes, while mediation and proposed financing may extend proceedings.

Getty Images Restructuring

Phil describes Getty Images’ liquidity strains after strategic setbacks and warrant litigation, and says its secured lenders, shareholders, and unsecured creditors will shape a complex restructuring.

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