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Sleepwalking through the current crisis with Doomberg

The discussion centers on geopolitical risks involving Russia, Iran, China, and potential pressure points across the Middle East and Taiwan. Doomberg argues that shifting U.S. policy, sanctions, and the use of financial infrastructure as a geopolitical tool could weaken trust in agreements and reduce foreign demand for U.S. Treasuries, despite roughly $2 trillion in annual on-the-run issuance. The conversation also examines how political cycles undermine long-term industrial investment and how a U.S.-Canada energy confrontation could disrupt oil and electricity markets.

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Key Takeaways

Doomberg views direct U.S.-Russia communication through CIA Director John Ratcliffe's Moscow visit as a channel that could support diplomatic decisions, but he says it could also precede escalation. He similarly treats Scott Bessent's rhetoric as potentially either cover for a face-saving exit from the Iran war or the start of a prolonged U.S.-China economic conflict.

Doomberg argues that Iran's demonstrated ability and willingness to retaliate could leave President Trump with escalation options that are difficult to scale, while the withdrawal from the Obama-era nuclear deal has weakened Iran's trust in U.S. commitments. He says this credibility deficit could lead U.S. counterparts to demand stronger assurances or wait out the American political cycle.

The Canada trade dispute and uncertainty around the Strait of Hormuz are already challenging assumptions about North American energy markets and appearing in global energy prices. Doomberg warns that a halt in Canadian oil exports could create a severe energy crisis because U.S. regions also depend on electricity from Hydro-Québec and Ontario, while access to Alberta heavy oil is important to the broader refining system.

Doomberg argues that using the U.S. financial system for geopolitical pressure, including freezing Russia's foreign reserves, could weaken the perceived neutrality and liquidity advantages of U.S. Treasuries. He says this may reduce foreign demand from countries including Brazil, South Korea, South Africa, and New Zealand even as the United States needs to issue roughly $2 trillion of on-the-run paper annually.

GEO-POLITICS

Moscow Backchannel — Doomberg views CIA Director John Ratcliffe's surprise visit to Moscow as a potentially important geopolitical signal. It could mark the beginning of the end of the war or precede escalation, while direct U.S.-Russia communication creates a channel for diplomacy and agreements.

“Yeah, obviously I think if we had to take a global view, there's a lot of digesting going on of historically consequential events and we always seem to be on…”—

Escalation Rhetoric — Doomberg hopes Scott Bessent's rhetoric is cover for a face-saving exit from the Iran war, rather than the start of a prolonged U.S.-China economic war.

“Let's hope that the bluster of Scott Bessant and his really shocking editorial in the Financial Times is the cover for a face- saving exit to the war in Iran…”—

Crisis Scenarios — Doomberg identifies low-probability or contingent risks, including the destruction of Arab Gulf oil and gas facilities, Russian strikes on drone-making facilities in NATO countries, a Chinese blockade of Taiwan, and possible North Korean action.

“You could see escalation in the Middle East and destruction of the oil and gas producing facilities across the Arab Gulf states…”—

ECONOMY

Political Cycles — Doomberg highlights a structural mismatch between political and industrial time horizons: heavy industry's capital-planning cycle is longer than the political cycle in most Western democracies. He cites the reversal of planned Atlantic-coast offshore wind investment as an example of capital destroyed after investors followed government signals.

“One of the consequences that flows from that that affects us for example in the energy space is that the capital planning cycle of heavy industry is longer than the…”—

MARKETS

Energy Pricing — Doomberg says the Canada trade dispute and uncertainty around the Strait of Hormuz are challenging assumptions about North American energy markets. Those risks are already reflected in global energy-market prices.

“We have the burgeoning trade dispute with Canada, which really sort of throws into the air many of our foundational assumptions as it pertains to the North American energy market…”—

Treasury Neutrality — Doomberg argues that using the U.S. financial system as a geopolitical weapon threatens the historical neutrality and liquidity advantages of U.S. Treasuries. Freezing Russia's foreign reserves could make other countries fear that their reserves may also become vulnerable.

“A remaining and not yet fully tapped weapon in the US inventory is of course the financial one. But that comes with some risk…”—

Foreign Treasury Demand — Doomberg argues that geopolitical pressure is making U.S. Treasuries less attractive to foreign holders, including Brazil, South Korea, South Africa, and New Zealand. He also notes that the United States needs to issue roughly $2 trillion of on-the-run paper annually.

“So in a world where Canada might come under fire from the US, why does Brazil want to hold any US treasuries?…”—

Introduction

Anthony Fats introduces Doomberg, notes their recurring conversations, and frames the episode around worsening Middle Eastern tensions and a broad agenda.

Overview of the economy and markets

Doomberg surveys markets absorbing consequential events, including uncertainty around Russia, Iran, China, Taiwan, Canada, the Strait of Hormuz, and global energy prices.

Economic uncertainty

The speakers describe persistent instability as psychologically normalized but emphasize that outcomes could diverge sharply between diplomatic resolution and simultaneous geopolitical escalation.

Democratic pain

Doomberg argues democracies’ short electoral cycles constrain strategy, encourage adversaries to wait, and undermine long-term industrial investment through abrupt policy reversals.

US becoming an emerging market?

Doomberg compares U.S. political volatility with emerging markets, using Argentina, Guyana, and Venezuela to explain why unstable commitments deter energy investment.

Solution in the Middle East?

The discussion considers Middle Eastern off-ramps, with Doomberg arguing financial sanctions are Washington’s remaining weapon but may provoke broader conflict and undermine Treasury neutrality.

US sanctions

Doomberg explains that sanctions against Russia, Iran, China, and potentially Canada could weaken global trust in U.S. Treasuries while roughly $2 trillion of annual issuance needs buyers.

Anything positive?

Doomberg identifies limited optimism in continued U.S.-Russia communication, possible diplomatic settlements, and the hope that Ukraine, Middle Eastern, and North American disputes avoid further escalation.

One message to takeaway?

Doomberg’s takeaway is to confront geopolitical reality, recognize that opponents can retaliate, and understand that foreign-policy actions carry consequences.

Important Disclaimers

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