Bitcoin SHOULD Be Falling - So Why Isn’t It?
The discussion weighs election-related pressure on energy prices, shifting geopolitical importance for the Strait of Hormuz, and the growing impact of AI on corporate margins. It also examines fiscal deficits, debt-service costs, Federal Reserve policy, and the divergence between economic conditions and asset prices. Speakers remain broadly constructive on earnings and market breadth, while treating elevated yields, compressed Bitcoin volatility, and potential policy or economic catalysts as key risks and turning points.
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The speakers argue that elevated crude-oil, corn, and soybean prices are politically damaging before an election, creating an incentive to lower energy and food costs while making a pre-election rate hike unlikely. They also say rate hikes are a weak response to oil-driven inflation because the Fed cannot increase oil supply and higher prices already constrain consumer spending.
The discussion links changing energy infrastructure and alternative routes to a prediction that the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz could become much less strategically important within 10 years, even if shipping were disrupted. That view contrasts with the current oil market, where delivery and supply bottlenecks are cited as a source of elevated prices rather than high production costs.
AI is being framed as an operating-margin and revenue opportunity beyond AI producers: roughly two dozen S&P companies quantified average AI-related EBIT-margin accretion of about 180 basis points, while Walmart’s AI shopping users reportedly spend 35% more in-store. The speakers expect investors to focus increasingly on measurable efficiency and profitability from adoption.
The episode emphasizes that stock-market performance can diverge sharply from economic conditions: Germany experienced a two-year recession while the DAX rose 100%. The speakers attribute much of post-COVID inflation to surging M2 and supply-chain disruptions, while noting that M2 later declined.
The speakers see earnings breadth as a key support for equities, citing a roughly 98% long-term correlation between S&P 500 earnings growth and price movement and expansion beyond the Magnificent Seven into emerging markets, Japan, and Europe. They also interpret gains in value and small-cap indexes alongside Magnificent Seven weakness as rotation rather than a broad market collapse.
GEO-POLITICS
“What does Mr. Trump need for elections? We know he needs lower prices…”—
TECHNOLOGY
“So in Q2 there was you know two dozen S&P component companies that talked about they specifically now quantified their EBIT margin impact EBIT margin accretion from using AI and…”—
ECONOMY
“the divi the difference between Main Street and Wall Street is actually causing a lot of the political earthquakes that we're seeing because people who have money are making more…”—
“I think the risk and the things that can cause markets to come under pressure or light a fire under equities is if the Fed is to start, let's say…”—
“if you're going to say that two-year note yields are about 50 basis points above the effective federal funds rate…”—
MARKETS
“That was off that was strong in in 2022, right? That's where he raised all his cash. S&P's up 100% since then. So, market cap to GDP, okay?…”—
“It's broad and strong everywhere. And you know what guys, it has been for the last 19 months, right?…”—
“MAG7 still looked okay, but everything else was coming online. It was coming online in EM. it was coming online in Japan and in Europe…”—
FORECASTS
“If it's up, okay, the Fed might have to tighten. Inflation sticky. Wealth which rich people get more money and incumbents keep getting crushed in the polls…”—
“Bitcoin simply delivered less movement than people paid for. I mean, volatility is astoundingly low, specifically in crypto right now…”—
“My favorite Javism is nothing is more bullish for Bitcoin than President AOC. Oh, there's no doubt that that's true. There's no doubt…”—
Market Earnings Backdrop
Chris argues that the economic backdrop, earnings breadth, and risk-asset conditions remain constructive despite elevated valuations and persistent macro pessimism.
Micro Over Macro
The speakers downplay backward-looking economic releases and emphasize corporate earnings, upcoming jobs data, and Jackson Hole as more consequential market inputs.
Earnings Breadth Expands
Large value stocks and small caps have outperformed the Magnificent Seven as earnings growth broadens across US, emerging, Japanese, and European companies.
AI Productivity Revolution
AI is increasingly benefiting companies that adopt the technology, improving help desks, manufacturing, supply chains, productivity, and corporate profitability.
Treasury Yield Pressure
Thirty-year Treasury yields reach their highest level since 2007, testing Federal Reserve communication and raising concerns about the bond market’s growing influence.
Bond Market Leads
Mike describes rising yields, weakness in speculative assets, and commodity signals while arguing that markets—not the Fed—are forcing policymakers to respond.
Fed Policy Levers
Dave distinguishes interest-rate policy from balance-sheet management and argues that oil, housing, and asset inflation weaken the case for higher rates.
Deficits And Debt Service
Record fiscal deficits and rising debt-service costs intensify pressure on policymakers, while the speakers debate whether a market decline could force inflation concerns lower.
Volatility Season Ahead
The panel expects a seasonal volatility increase as equities approach ambitious targets and earnings rate-of-change peaks, though they remain constructive on pullbacks.
Bitcoin Volatility Compression
Bitcoin volatility is unusually depressed, and the speakers discuss whether tight compression, macro risks, and a possible equity correction could trigger a larger move.
Political Wealth Divide
The discussion links fiscal stress, wealth inequality, and voter dissatisfaction, warning that wealth-tax proposals could create severe economic consequences.
Japan China Debt Risks
Japan and China illustrate different approaches to high debt burdens and low yields, while the panel questions how long the United States can defer fiscal adjustment.
Inflationary Debt Exit
Dave sees growth through deregulation or inflation through asset prices as the principal exits from America’s debt problem, with neither path politically straightforward.
Energy Prices And Elections
Mike argues that falling natural-gas, crude-oil, corn, and soybean prices could ease inflation and provide political relief ahead of the elections.
Hormuz Loses Importance
The speakers contend that energy supply bottlenecks eventually resolve and that new routes and production could reduce the Strait of Hormuz’s geopolitical importance.
Bitcoin Holds Bad News
Franklin Templeton treats Bitcoin as a tradable risk asset, while the panel debates its monetary-market opportunity and why persistent bad news has not caused further selling.
Tether Credibility Turning Point
The speakers view Tether’s reported asset verification and Bitcoin’s resilience amid negative headlines as potential turning-point signals, while warning that markets must ultimately decide.
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