PodcastThe Wolf Of All StreetsChris Galipeau

Bitcoin SHOULD Be Falling - So Why Isn’t It?

The discussion weighs election-related pressure on energy prices, shifting geopolitical importance for the Strait of Hormuz, and the growing impact of AI on corporate margins. It also examines fiscal deficits, debt-service costs, Federal Reserve policy, and the divergence between economic conditions and asset prices. Speakers remain broadly constructive on earnings and market breadth, while treating elevated yields, compressed Bitcoin volatility, and potential policy or economic catalysts as key risks and turning points.

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The speakers argue that elevated crude-oil, corn, and soybean prices are politically damaging before an election, creating an incentive to lower energy and food costs while making a pre-election rate hike unlikely. They also say rate hikes are a weak response to oil-driven inflation because the Fed cannot increase oil supply and higher prices already constrain consumer spending.

The discussion links changing energy infrastructure and alternative routes to a prediction that the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz could become much less strategically important within 10 years, even if shipping were disrupted. That view contrasts with the current oil market, where delivery and supply bottlenecks are cited as a source of elevated prices rather than high production costs.

AI is being framed as an operating-margin and revenue opportunity beyond AI producers: roughly two dozen S&P companies quantified average AI-related EBIT-margin accretion of about 180 basis points, while Walmart’s AI shopping users reportedly spend 35% more in-store. The speakers expect investors to focus increasingly on measurable efficiency and profitability from adoption.

The episode emphasizes that stock-market performance can diverge sharply from economic conditions: Germany experienced a two-year recession while the DAX rose 100%. The speakers attribute much of post-COVID inflation to surging M2 and supply-chain disruptions, while noting that M2 later declined.

The speakers see earnings breadth as a key support for equities, citing a roughly 98% long-term correlation between S&P 500 earnings growth and price movement and expansion beyond the Magnificent Seven into emerging markets, Japan, and Europe. They also interpret gains in value and small-cap indexes alongside Magnificent Seven weakness as rotation rather than a broad market collapse.

GEO-POLITICS

Election Price Pressure — The discussion argues that the incumbent party has an incentive to lower corn, soybean, crude-oil, and other energy prices before the election. Inflation and elevated oil prices are hurting its polling position, while the speakers say a rate hike near the election is unlikely.

“What does Mr. Trump need for elections? We know he needs lower prices…”—

TECHNOLOGY

AI Margin Gains — AI is benefiting companies that use it, not just companies that produce it, through help-desk automation, manufacturing, and supply-chain productivity. In Q2, roughly two dozen S&P component companies quantified AI-related EBIT-margin accretion averaging about 180 basis points. The speakers expect greater emphasis on measurable efficiency and profitability.

“So in Q2 there was you know two dozen S&P component companies that talked about they specifically now quantified their EBIT margin impact EBIT margin accretion from using AI and…”—

ECONOMY

Market-Economy Divergence — The speakers distinguish the stock market from the underlying economy, citing Germany’s two-year recession alongside a 100% rise in the DAX. They also attribute a large part of post-COVID inflation to sharply rising M2 and supply chains, while noting that M2 subsequently declined.

“the divi the difference between Main Street and Wall Street is actually causing a lot of the political earthquakes that we're seeing because people who have money are making more…”—

Fed Hiking Risk — A prolonged Federal Reserve hiking cycle is identified as a risk to equities because rates held too high could break something and cause a recession. By contrast, rate cuts during an expanding economy could support equities.

“I think the risk and the things that can cause markets to come under pressure or light a fire under equities is if the Fed is to start, let's say…”—

Bond Market Leads — The discussion argues that bond markets lead the Federal Reserve. Two-year Treasury yields roughly 50 basis points above the effective federal-funds rate are presented as an indicator of Fed expectations. Falling breakeven rates and conflicting long-term yields leave the Fed under pressure, while a possible division between the chair and the board is described as a governance risk.

“if you're going to say that two-year note yields are about 50 basis points above the effective federal funds rate…”—

MARKETS

Earnings Drive Stocks — The speakers view the market backdrop as broadly supportive because earnings power is broad and valuations are neither especially expensive nor cheap. They cite a roughly 98% long-term correlation between S&P 500 earnings growth and price movement, and note that the S&P is up about 100% since 2022.

“That was off that was strong in in 2022, right? That's where he raised all his cash. S&P's up 100% since then. So, market cap to GDP, okay?…”—

Market Rotation — Weakness in the Magnificent Seven alongside gains in large-value and small-cap indexes is interpreted as market rotation rather than a broad collapse.

“It's broad and strong everywhere. And you know what guys, it has been for the last 19 months, right?…”—

Global Earnings Breadth — Earnings growth is broadening beyond the Magnificent Seven into emerging markets, Japan, and Europe. The speaker says the earnings picture still looks very good through calendar 2027.

“MAG7 still looked okay, but everything else was coming online. It was coming online in EM. it was coming online in Japan and in Europe…”—

FORECASTS

S&P Policy Trigger — The speakers present the next 10% move in the S&P 500 as a potential policy and market trigger. A 10% rise could increase pressure on the Fed to tighten if inflation remains sticky, while a 10% fall is said to resolve the inflation problem in the speaker’s view. A high-end year-end S&P target of 7,800 is also cited, with a minor correction expected over the next few months.

“If it's up, okay, the Fed might have to tighten. Inflation sticky. Wealth which rich people get more money and incumbents keep getting crushed in the polls…”—

Bitcoin Volatility — Bitcoin volatility is described as unusually compressed. The speakers say recent volatility buyers lost money because Bitcoin moved less than expected, while historically tight compression is usually followed by a large expansion in movement.

“Bitcoin simply delivered less movement than people paid for. I mean, volatility is astoundingly low, specifically in crypto right now…”—

Bitcoin Million-Dollar Case — The speaker says Bitcoin could reach $1 million under a President AOC scenario involving substantial currency devaluation. Bitcoin’s investment thesis is described as capturing the monetary component of gold’s market capitalization. The speaker personally views that outcome as more likely than not, while relative market caps imply a market-assigned probability below 5%.

“My favorite Javism is nothing is more bullish for Bitcoin than President AOC. Oh, there's no doubt that that's true. There's no doubt…”—

Market Earnings Backdrop

Chris argues that the economic backdrop, earnings breadth, and risk-asset conditions remain constructive despite elevated valuations and persistent macro pessimism.

Micro Over Macro

The speakers downplay backward-looking economic releases and emphasize corporate earnings, upcoming jobs data, and Jackson Hole as more consequential market inputs.

Earnings Breadth Expands

Large value stocks and small caps have outperformed the Magnificent Seven as earnings growth broadens across US, emerging, Japanese, and European companies.

AI Productivity Revolution

AI is increasingly benefiting companies that adopt the technology, improving help desks, manufacturing, supply chains, productivity, and corporate profitability.

Treasury Yield Pressure

Thirty-year Treasury yields reach their highest level since 2007, testing Federal Reserve communication and raising concerns about the bond market’s growing influence.

Bond Market Leads

Mike describes rising yields, weakness in speculative assets, and commodity signals while arguing that markets—not the Fed—are forcing policymakers to respond.

Fed Policy Levers

Dave distinguishes interest-rate policy from balance-sheet management and argues that oil, housing, and asset inflation weaken the case for higher rates.

Deficits And Debt Service

Record fiscal deficits and rising debt-service costs intensify pressure on policymakers, while the speakers debate whether a market decline could force inflation concerns lower.

Volatility Season Ahead

The panel expects a seasonal volatility increase as equities approach ambitious targets and earnings rate-of-change peaks, though they remain constructive on pullbacks.

Bitcoin Volatility Compression

Bitcoin volatility is unusually depressed, and the speakers discuss whether tight compression, macro risks, and a possible equity correction could trigger a larger move.

Political Wealth Divide

The discussion links fiscal stress, wealth inequality, and voter dissatisfaction, warning that wealth-tax proposals could create severe economic consequences.

Japan China Debt Risks

Japan and China illustrate different approaches to high debt burdens and low yields, while the panel questions how long the United States can defer fiscal adjustment.

Inflationary Debt Exit

Dave sees growth through deregulation or inflation through asset prices as the principal exits from America’s debt problem, with neither path politically straightforward.

Energy Prices And Elections

Mike argues that falling natural-gas, crude-oil, corn, and soybean prices could ease inflation and provide political relief ahead of the elections.

Hormuz Loses Importance

The speakers contend that energy supply bottlenecks eventually resolve and that new routes and production could reduce the Strait of Hormuz’s geopolitical importance.

Bitcoin Holds Bad News

Franklin Templeton treats Bitcoin as a tradable risk asset, while the panel debates its monetary-market opportunity and why persistent bad news has not caused further selling.

Tether Credibility Turning Point

The speakers view Tether’s reported asset verification and Bitcoin’s resilience amid negative headlines as potential turning-point signals, while warning that markets must ultimately decide.

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